About RTR Instructors

Senior Instructor
Reed Thorne

Lead Instructors
Len Batley

Kevin Frye

Doug Clark

Assistant Instructors
Eric Ulner

Dave Van Holstyn

Greg Sobole

Scott Bye

Becky Cordova


Len Batley, Australia Lead Instructor

Len Batley is a Fire Officer with the South Australian Metropolitan Fire Service, Australia. He has over 20 years experience in Emergency Services specializing in Technical Rescue. Len has achieved instructor status with many emergency services Australia wide as well as holding many international qualifications. Len BatleyDuring his time in the Fire Service he started and coordinated the rope rescue program expanding in to other areas of technical rescue. This involved the initial implementation and training of instructors, and the control of quality standards through all shifts and departments of the Fire Service.

Left, Len at Arapiles in 2003 Team Skills Rescue Workshop. Right, Len standing above Utah's Escalante River canyon in 2002 Canyon Rescue Workshop which he helped instruct

In 1998 Len was awarded the prestigious Winston Churchill Memorial Trust Fellowship. This opportunity enabled Len to study technical rescue with emergency organizations in Canada, United States, Sweden, United Kingdom and Singapore for six months. Utilizing his knowledge gained locally and internationally Len has set up a training company (Fire & Rescue Australia). Fire & Rescue Australia specializes in teaching ongoing training to corporations, emergency services members and individuals. Participants frequently describe Len's courses as "the most intensive, enjoyable learning experience in Australia for rescuers". Len is privileged to be working with Ropes that Rescue and hopes he may be able learn from Reed and other members and to share his knowledge with rescuers all over the world.

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Kevin Frye, Lead Instructor

Kevin P. Frye, is a Fireman/ Rescue Specialist with the County of Los Angeles Fire Department. He first experienced the allure of climbing and the outdoors at Joshua Tree National Park in California at the age of 7, and began attending rope rescue classes in his early teens. He has been playing on rope ever since.
Kevin’s first teaching job was as a weapons instructor in the United States Marine Corps at Quantico, Virginia in 1990. He then moved into the fire service as a volunteer fireman. Introduced to technical rescue, Kevin found a way to turn his passion for rope into part of his profession. After being honorably discharged from the Marine Corps in 1993, he went to work full time for Prince William Co. Dept of Fire and Rescue in Virginia. Continuing his fire service education, he attended many fire and technical rescue courses and obtained an Associate Instructor certificate from the Virginia Dept. of Fire Programs. Kevin instructed as an apprentice in many fire and rope classes for PWC and the State of Virginia.

Kevin Frye, with wife, Shannon, sons Connor and Kaelen enjoying the mountains above there home in California. Right, Kevin and dog/pet, "Tiller" in recent training


He returned to his native California in late 1996, serving as a Deputy Sheriff with the Orange County Sheriff’s Department where he worked as a corrections Deputy for 1 year until the County of Los Angeles Fire Department hired him in 1998.
In Feb 2000, Kevin was assigned to USAR 103, one of 2 Technical Rescue units in L.A. County. He is also a Technical Search Specialist on CATF-2, a USAR team with domestic (Dept of Homeland Security/ FEMA) and international (USAID/OFDA) capabilities. Kevin has been a rope and confined space instructor for the Dept. for 4 years. He is also a lead instructor for L.A. County Fire Dept’s R.I.T./ firefighter survival program, which he developed along with Captain Wayne Ibers.
Kevin enjoys working and learning in the vertical realm. “The best part about teaching is that I always learn some cool technique from a student!” he says.
With 2 young sons, being a dad is the best part of life! Kevin climbs when he can and also SCUBA dives off the Ca. Coast. He lives with his wife, Shannon, and sons, Connor and Kaelen, in Carlsbad.

Kevin, an excellent cook in his own right, whips up a tasty peach cobbler for students at the Outward Bound kitchen on Hurricane Island for the Minimalist Mountain Rescue Workshop Maine, 2004.

 

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Doug Clark, Lead Instructor

Doug Clark's interest in ropes began at the age of 14 when he was first introduced to climbing. That interest quickly expanded to a passion. That passion has taken him from the tropical limestone of Thailand to month long expeditions in the Canadian Rockies. He has climbed the big walls of Yosemite to the splitters of Nevada, but will always return to his backyard, the Washington Cascades.

Left, Doug atop the Seattle Space Needle in 2004 assisting in the Marysville Fire Team Skills Rescue Workshop program

Doug was hired with the city of Wenatchee, Washington as a Firefighter in 1995. Having had exposure to many rescue disciplines, he chose to make technical rope rescue his specialty. After beginning his instructor training with Ropes That Rescue in 1997, he returned to the Wenatchee Fire Department and created their current rope rescue program. He quickly became a consultant for many of the surrounding fire districts. In 1998 he was approached to implement a technical rescue program for the Alcoa Wenatchee Works Aluminum plant and provided initial and ongoing training for their 40 person team. Along with instructing many fire departments throughout the state of Washington he is a member of the instruction cadre for the North Central Washington Technical Skills Center, and has taught seminars for the National Ski Patrol.

Left, Doug on some of the harder routes of Smith Rocks, Oregon

Doug has logged over 900 hours of instruction in the art of rope rescue. His background has allowed him to interact with all types of students ranging from professional firefighters to people in industry. Aside from his time spent teaching; he has gained experience through his involvement with his local mountain rescue group.

Right, Instructor, Doug Clark, with wife, Mandy, and Zoe

In his free time Doug enjoys many outdoor activities including canoeing, mountain biking, and hiking with his wife, Mandy, and their Australian Shepherd, Zoe. Doug and Mandy just recently welcomed a brand new baby daughter to the household! Her name is Mya Isabella Clark. We're still waiting for pics!

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Mike Green, Lead Instructor

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Eric Ulner, Assistant Instructor

Eric entered the vertical world during high school in 1977, learning rock climbing on the sandstone cliffs of Southern Illinois. Since then, climbing has been a constant. He has opened over 150 new climbing routes in Southern Illinois, and has climbed in areas across the United States. In 1981, Eric concurrently began a 12-year tenure as a Tae Kwon Do and Hapkido instructor at Southern Illinois and Southeast Missouri State Universities, and at private schools. It was this precision-coordination teaching that laid a foundation for Eric to effectively communicate technical rope and climbing skills. Since 1993, Eric has owned and operated the Vertical Heartland Climbing School. In 1996, he and his wife, Kathy, purchased about 1⁄4 mile of the south face of Draper's Bluff in Southern Illinois, built their home at the base, and have since operated the climbing school on site.

The Ulner family from left to right: Eric, Lukas (7) and Kathy


Eric joined Ropes That Rescue in early 2005, after first training with Reed Thorne in 2002. He has also received training up through advanced rock guide with the American Mountain Guide Association, focusing heavily on multi-pitch guiding and rescue scenarios, with a minimalist perspective. Eric’s on-the-side contract jobs have included changing out 500-pound Hilton Hotel signs 380 feet above the street, teaching rope skills to Team Columbia Sportswear (Eco Challenge), rigging for a Rescue 911 television show, and complex rigging for piece-by-piece chain sawing of trees leaning over homes.

He is the author of three editions of Vertical Heartland: A Rock Climber's Guide to Southern Illinois, having finished the latest in early 2005. He is a licensed Emergency Medical Technician- Intermediate level- with ambulance experience at Jackson County in Illinois since 1994. He holds a Bachelor of Science degree in Recreation from Southern Illinois University at Carbondale. Away from work, Eric enjoys climbing with Kathy and their son, Lukas, and his other passions of Tae Kwon Do, Hapkido, and in-line skating.

Eric climbing "Bolted One" at Jackson Falls in southern illinois (Click to Enlarge) VERTICAL HEARTLAND
Photo by Mike Landkroom (professional climbing photographer) www.mikelandkroon.com

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Dave Van Holstyn, Assistant Instructor

Dave Van Holstyn (nickname: "VH1") is a career Lieutenant and Technical Rescue Coordinator with the Grand Rapids (MI) Fire Department. He is currently assigned to Ladder Co. #1, one of the department’s technical rescue companies. His fire service career started in 1987 as a paid-on-call firefighter in Walker, MI. He began his formal technical rescue training in 1993 as a charter member of the department’s confined space rescue team but his exposure to working at heights started in the late 70’s while doing work on communications towers. Dave is also a team leader for the West Michigan Regional collapse rescue team. As a FEMA certified collapse instructor and state certified instructor, he teaches courses in all aspects of technical rescue but rope rescue remains his specialty. He has conducted countless classes, not only for fire departments in Michigan, but also for industrial rescuers in a dozen states and Canada. Dave has made several presentations at the national Fire Department Instructors Conference and is also one of their Hands-On Instructors. In addition to confined space and collapse rescue Dave was involved in the development of programs on firefighter survival, rapid intervention teams and industrial extrication. Dave has been married to Joanne for 24 years, they live in Grand Rapids with their children, Mark 21, Beth 16 and Renee 20. In his spare time Dave enjoys hiking and stock car racing.

Above left, Dave Van Holstyn helps practitioners in 2006 Indianapolis Industrial Rescue Workshop above water filled spillway

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Scott Bye , Assistant Instructor

Scott began his career in the vertical realm in 1978. With a pair of sneakers and a “swami” belt, he began the journey of rock climbing that has taken him to many different climbing areas of the world. Scott has climbed locally for many years in the Lake Tahoe basin and in Yosemite, climbing many of the classic long free and aid routes on the immense granite cliffs of Yosemite, namely, El Capitan’s Salathe wall and the world renowned free climb, Astroman on Washington’s column. Scott has climbed at Mt. Arapiles; Australia, Siruana; Spain, Verdon Gorge; France, Pembroke; England and Squamish; Canada, et al. “Traveling around to different countries of the world, helps me retain an appreciation for everything we have and all that the U.S. has to offer, yet I learn something new, every time I travel abroad”.

Scott is currently employed with the Roseville Fire Department and is a Captain on Truck 1 on the “B” shift. He has been in the fire service for over 19 years, first starting as a Volunteer Firefighter in Placerville, Ca., then becoming a full-time career Firefighter in 1988. He then took a job with Roseville in 1990. Since then, he had promoted to Engineer in 1993 and then to Captain in 1997. Scott became a Haz-Mat Specialist in 1993 and became California State Rescue systems I & II, Confined Space, Trench Rescue, and Shallow Water Dive Rescue certified. He is also in the process of joining the CATF-7 FEMA USAR team. Scott is in charge of all Technical Rope Rescue work and training at Roseville Fire Dept.


Scott is married to his wife Colleen, with a son, Daniel. Colleen has a Master’s degree in Math and teaches at California State University, Sacramento and at Lake Tahoe Community College. They will soon be building their dream home in the Lake Tahoe Basin. His son, Daniel, is a junior in High School, with big endeavors of traveling the globe, surfing and skiing the great places of the U.S. and abroad, before he pursues his college ambitions.
Scott, Colleen and Daniel all love the great outdoors and the many facets of activity it can bring. They love to climb, ski, bike, walk and travel in the wonderful playground of the Sierra Nevada and elsewhere.
Scott is honored to become part of the team at Ropes that Rescue, and is looking forward to offering Northern California and Nevada some of the best there is to offer in Rope Rescue training.

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Greg Sobole, Assistant Instructor

Few subjects in the fire service pique my interest or motivation like the discipline of rope rescue. What first appeared to me as a simple rope system has become far more. Through practice and learning I continue to discover and appreciate the scientific beauty of a well-rigged rope system. From the intricate systems we often practice to the simple design and efficiency of a classic set-up, rope rigging truly is an art. I am excited and honored to be asked to teach with Ropes That Rescue.

I teach for several reasons. On a professional level teaching helps me perform my duties to a high standard of excellence. The depth of knowledge and intense familiarity of the theories and tools constantly forces me to study, practice and effectively present information to a wide variety of students. On a personal level I teach to pass on knowledge. I often feel as though I am standing on the shoulders of giants since the great majority of my knowledge comes from the experience and work of many practitioners who have gone before me. Each person who took the time to teach me has, in their own way, shaped my knowledge and skills. Having been generously taught and encouraged by others I feel an obligation to do the same. As in all of life what more worthwhile undertaking is there than helping others reach their potential?

I am a member of the Seattle Fire Department and work on the Technical Rescue Team, which is specially trained for emergencies such as structural collapse, heavy extrication, trench collapse, high angle, confined space and dive rescue. Before beginning my career in the fire service I worked in building construction. As a third-generation carpenter I’ve been swinging a hammer off and on for many years. At the advice of a mentor, I began attending college classes a few years after graduating high school. In short order I developed a thirst for knowledge and learning and continued on with my studies eventually graduating from Seattle Pacific University in 2003 with majors in Political Science and English.Clara

Left, Greg at the recent 2007 Bell Rock to Courthouse Butte highline. Right, Greg and Clara at home in Seattle, WA

Beyond my career I have many interests and hobbies - especially if they are "gear intensive" pursuits. However, perhaps my most meaningful interest is my dog, Clara. She is a black Labrador Retriever. Because of her endless energy she and I spend hours hiking and playing outdoors. And she’s never met a tennis ball or a swimming hole she didn't like. It’s been said that dogs have so many friends because they wag their tail instead of their tongue. I agree.

I also love reading and I read widely. Non-fiction has been the majority of my reading during the last few years. Topics such as travel, science, philosophy, theology and food are always near the top of the stack. Memoir, too, has taken a prominent role in my reading. Surprisingly more than I ever thought it would. The range of human experience constantly fascinates me, even more so when the person is not famous or prominent. And, of course, I always appreciate the craftsmanship of a well-written novel. A few authors that have influenced me include: C.S. Lewis, Lee Strobel, Hank Hannegraff and John Maxwell.

Left, Greg attends a litter on the 750' high Forest Hill Bridge, America's 3rd highest, in a Team Skills Rescue Workshop in 2006. Right, Clara looking rather intent on retrieving a ball!

My father encouraged a love music in me. As a teenager I used spend time working with him in his shop. There I discovered in his collection a jazz album - cassette tape actually - entitled The Road To You by the Pat Metheney Group. Until I heard that album I thought of music as a three-minute song here and there. But as I played The Road To You over and over I discovered how each song, though unique on its own, flowed naturally into the next creating a complete and thoughtful presentation. That's when an album became an album in its entirety and music became much more alive for me than a mere pop song. That album in particular, with its Brazilian-inspired percussion and beautiful guitar work, became a sort of bookmark for me, a connection to the past that evokes memories of the smell of sawdust and time spent with my dad. I played that tape until it broke. And from that time until today the music of Pat Metheney constantly excites and inspires me. By the way, Reed Thorne is a huge fan of Pat Metheny as well.

I also thoroughly enjoy food of all kinds. So the restaurant, of course, is not far behind indoor plumbing on my list of greatest inventions. And I am fortunate to live in Seattle where the variety of restaurants and the freshness of local ingredients make eating out adventurous and exciting. (Not to mention we have some of the world's best vineyards in our backyard.) And I always enjoy the ritual of cooking at home. Certainly the gear guy in me is pleased with the way a properly sharpened knife performs on a walnut cutting board and the way a pair of perfectly balanced tongs feels in my hand as I flip a rib eye on the grill. But the best part is inviting a few friends over, playing music, drinking good wine and engaging in long discussions of religion and politics.

 


Becky Cordova, Assistant Instructor

I once read somewhere that “the biggest adventure you can ever take is to live the life of your dreams”, and I’ve always said I love a good adventure.

I have been a firefighter for the Sacramento Metropolitan Fire District since 2005. Prior to the fire service, I was a microbiologist and quality control lab technician for a well-known brewery. I did work in infectious disease research during college, and I also spent a month one summer living in a remote field station in Mexico learning to do bird population studies. I have a bachelor’s degree in biology with a minor in chemistry. I am an amateur photographer and I love to mountain bike. I also love to watch my two dogs wrestle with each other and run around at the park. Skipper and Ginger are my Australian shepherds, and we live in Chico, California.

When I began my career in the fire service (just a few years ago), I was immediately fascinated by the discipline of technical rope rescue. In the past two years I have been involved with rope rescue training for the recruit academy at Metro Fire as well as high angle rescue training for some of our truck companies. I am drawn to the simplicity involved in building and operating what may appear to be complex systems.

Left, Becky on the Forest Hill Bridge during 2007 Personal Skills Rescue Workshop.

Right, Becky with Skipper and Ginger in the wilderness of the Northwest.

I enjoy working with Reed and the other Ropes That Rescue instructors because I like the analytical thinking and critical evaluation that this group employs. I enjoy teaching because I like the sense of accomplishment I feel when I’ve helped someone learn something valuable to them – something that perhaps will help them to achieve their own goals. I may have just added a single tool to their “toolbox” of knowledge, but it may someday be just the right tool for the job.

Left, Becky prepares to take a long ride on a huge 500 kv power line during a tower rescue course Reed Thorne (right in photo) was teaching for a utility in Sacramento, CA in 2008.

Reed Thorne, VP RTR, Senior Instructor

Reed Thorne has been involved in the teaching of techniques relative to the 'vertical realm' since the early 1970's. In Southern California, his first activities dealing with rope were with the Sierra Club Angeles Chapter (Orange County Group) where Reed became a Hundred Peak, Rock Climbing and Mountaineering Section leader through training with the Sierra Club's Leadership Section. He eventually moved into rope rescue instruction under nationally-recognized US National Park SAR ranger, Butch Farabee, at the Grand Canyon in Arizona between the years of 1981 and 1986. Butch is credited with having shaped Reed's early years as a rope instructor.


Reed Thorne during highline training in Canada. Photo by Jayne Thorne 1987

In 1989, Reed was also instrumental in the preliminary testing of belay techniques alongside John Dill of Yosemite SAR and Arnor Larson of the British Columbia Council of Technical Rescue in BC, Canada. These tests still remain some of the most extensive ever attempted by a volunteer team of lay-researchers, the results of which were published in Response magazine in the highly acclaimed 1990 article "Are You Really On Belay?" by John Dill. Many of Reed's hand-drawn illustrations accompanied this article.

Reed now has attained recent Technician Level certification with the Society of Professional Rope Access Technicians (SPRAT) where he practices rope access procedures often on his back yard training and testing tower. His services have been required on several dams and bridges throughout the Southwest including work on Hoover Dam and also in training Arizona Department of Transportation structural engineers during the construction of Navajo Bridge over Marble Canyon in 1995. His work with various construction companies such as Edward Kramer and Sons, Kiewitt Western and Vasco Company have earned him a reputation as a knowledgeable technical rigger where understanding and safety are of paramount concern.

He formally was the primary rope discipline instructor for the Arizona State Fire Marshal's Office for over five years before privately forming Ropes That Rescue Ltd. (RTR) in 1993. Since then, RTR has traveled and taught extensive programs to fire/EMS agencies around the world, including Australia where he holds regular programs hosted by Fire & Rescue Australia. Mining and oil refineries from Arizona to northern Canada have contracted rescue programs within the challenging terrains of their own operations. Electric power utilities and others have also used Reed to teach their emergency response teams. His thorough knowledge of the electric power delivery industry has lead to many of the procedures and techniques he espouses in his rigging courses. In 2001, Reed's pioneering power line rescue techniques were featured in the History Channel special "High Voltage" (on 'Suicide Missions') delineating extra hazardous rescue procedures with Georgia Power transmission linemen on energized 500,000 volt power lines (above left). In addition, Reed has recently completed one full-length DVD's on TOWER RESCUE, one for emergency responders and a second specifically for tower workers. These training DVD's are accompanied by full color manuals (right) which Reed authored, photographed and illustrated.

During times that Reed is not teaching rope rescue programs, or consulting for industry, he is busy as an accomplished mason. Brickwork had previously been his main living since the early '70's. He designed and built his own three-level masonry home in Oak Creek Canyon, Arizona north of Sedona which is built from native river stone and old Phoenix sand mold brick. Reed still comes "out of hiding" to work on custom brick jobs and interesting Rumford fireplaces around the Southwest. Check the Rumford web site for Reed's masonry work http://rumford.com/Thorne.html. Reed also dabbles in cartooning and other forms of artwork. His cartoons have been featured in Advance Rescue Technology magazine accompanying his article "A Young Person's Guide to Pulley Systems" in 2001 and later in a nine part series "A Young Person's Guide to Structural Rescue" in 2005. Click on the drawing to see the entire stupid cartoon.

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